JAWBREAKER were interviewed after the SEATTLE show of their 1990 tour.
SAT. August 18th. Interviewed by Dave Larson, Val Wonder, and Matt Akai.
DAVE-TO START OFF, WHAT ARE YOUR NAMES AND WHAT DO YOU PLAY?
-I'm BLAKE and I play guitar and sing.
-I'm ADAM; I play drums. And Smokey plays bass. Smokey Bauermeister.(Who is actually Chris Bauermeister, who is busy loading equipment into the JAWBREAKER DELUXE TOUR CRUISER.)
D.- HOW LONG HAVE YOU BEEN ON TOUR?
B.- Seven, oh, I guess this is our eighth week. Which is rather amazing because we've never toured before. We've done like, mini things, like four days, tops, but nothing like this.
D.- DO YOU LIKE IT?
B.- Yeah, I dig it. Y'know, it's intense,-a real workout. I needed it. I'm just, like, a college geek year round so I could use some strenuous exercise. I'm thankful for the opportunity to travel. Right now it's like a less than break even operation, but still, like, tonight's' show was really fun. It's rewarding.
D.- HAVE YOU DONE ALL AGES SHOWS EVERYWHERE YOU'VE GONE?
B.- Yeah, We've tried to whenever we could. Unfortunately, Oregon was two 21 and up shows, because the all ages places went out of business during the tour. That's the problem with all ages places, there's no guarantee that they're going to be around after 4 or 5 weeks. It sucks. It's really unstable. Here's Smokey!
SMOKEY/CHRIS- When i used to drink BLACK LABEL, it had, like, white cans. Have you seen BLACK LABEL ginger ale? Or is it grapefruit? I saw BLACK LABEL sodas. I was really scarey, I didn't know what the hell was going on!
B.- Smokey the consumer!
D.- DURING THE SHOW YOU MENTIONED ANOTHER SHOW AT WHICH YOU HAD TROUBLE WITH SKINHEADS.
C.-That was Oxnard, CA. Home of NARD-CORE.
B.- Yeah, there were a lot of them. There was, actually, about 95% very cool people...
A.- Yeah, like always.
B.- 5% assholes, Y'know? As per always the 5% was all the muscle and the 95% was the intelligence. So, the muscle thumped the intelligence.
A.- I don't think...I mean, they were just hardcore.
C.- They were Nazis!
B.- They were straight out racists.
VAL- I HAVE A QUESTION. YOU DON'T PLAY "BUSY" AT YOUR SHOWS BECAUSE IT'S THE MOST POPULAR?
B.- Yeah, we only play "Busy" in basements to crowds of like one or two...
C.- No, there were three!
B.- We only played it once this tour, at like, four in the morning.
V.- DO YOU NOT LIKE TO PLAY IT?
B.- It's real strenuous, and I have throat problems after this many shows. We might do it again, it's just rare.
D.- HOW LONG HAVE YOU BEEN TOGETHER?
C.- A year with this line up; three years with the three of us and different people with us.
B.- Actually, almost two years with this line up, as JAWBREAKER.
MATT-IN YOUR REVIEW IN THE ROCKET, THE AREA RAG THING..
C.- Is that the thing that has Debbie Harry on the cover? Yeah, we saw that.
M.- So how about it? Are you going for the big college hit with "Busy"?
C.- That was bizarre.
A.- They must have got a press kit, because "Busy" was played alot.
B.- There was no attempt to pursue a college market. I was psyched, though, to see that they took the time to say "Go see JAWBREAKER while they're here". 'Cause that seems pretty rare. Fuck it, I just want to score crack. (Much laughter)
B.- The thrify boulder, man!
D.- THIS IS GONNA GET PRINTED!
B.- Fine! Bring it on. Send crack to the P.O. Box! See, I want to wage war on the war on drugs, and the way I feel that I can do that is by arming myself with an enormous boulder of crack cocaine. Take it down too the White House and plant it in the lawn.
M.- HOW MUCH DO YOU ESTIMATE THIS WILL BE?
B.- Tons, man! Like, Y'know when they freeze that creature in the 50's movies and they drop ice on it? Yeah, we need a boulder that size to freeze George Bush.
M.- ANYTHING LARGER THAN A QUARTER IS A LARGE ROCK.
B.- I'm looking for the megachunk!
C.- House size!
A.- No, like that thing in "RAIDERS OF THE LOST ARK" - the boulder!
B.- If anyone takes that literally they are fucking weak, I'd like to add that. If anyone makes a big deal out of that I would enjoy it. I would be laughing at them from far away.
C.- Yeah, did we tell you about the Walter Matheau thing? We got a letter from his lawyer threatening us. Unless we recall and destroy all the "Busy" covers we're going to get sued. We got one piece of mail and we have no idea what's going on.
B.- That was like our welcome to L.A., to our P.O. Box. It was so rad. It was a big moment for us!
M.- SO YOU'LL BE SHOWING UP ON PHIL DONAHUE WITH 2 LIVE CREW...
C.- Fuck Yeah!
B. & C.- Straight out! (After this comes random talk about rap and the fact that their first single was pressed just south of Compton.)
D.- DO YOU ALL HAVE INPUT ON THE MUSIC, OR IS IT BASICALLY JUST ONE OF YOU COMING UP WITH IT?
C.- Musically, it's like 1/3 each. Usually what will happen is either Blake or I will come up with a riff...and then one of us will come up with a second part, and then we'll force Adam to learn it a short period of time, which he can do because he's such an amazing drummer, and then basically we've got a song written.
M.- WHAT'S YOUR OPINION ON RELIGION IN HARDCORE, OR PUNK OR WHATEVER? SPECIFICALLY KRISHNA.
B.- Well, I think God's a motherfucker but he's got a fuckin' hefty penis, man.
M.- HOW BIG?!
C.- So wide you can't get around it! So high you can't over it! So low you can't get under it!
B.- It's just this big, throbbing, gristle dick, man, it's just always trying to get in you somehow. You open your mouth and it's stuffed right down your throat. Wherever you turn, there's God's cock. It's awful, men, women, it doesn't matter. Everyone's getting God raped these days.
A.- (On Krishna) I've never really been exposed to it, y'know, you read about it in MRR, but I'm pretty picky about the albums I buy just because they cost 7, 8 bucks.
B.- I've dealt with Krishnas doing like, street sales. Like, ex-skinhead Krishnas that were like the scariest looking and sounding people I've ever dealt with. And I've had guys approach me and I could tell that they were like total fuckin' violent, hateful, belligerent, skinhead types, that like, come up and try to sell me the "Bhagavad Gita" or whatever. It's a drag.
C.- I've gotten into philosophical arguments with Krishnas. When i worked at SCAREY TOFU I worked with nothing but Bhuddists' and Krishnas, and I just don't believe in this whole Karmic whatever. I think that one of the basic things I don't agree with is this sort of an acceptance of the way things are because,..if things are going badly for you, you've done something bad in a previous life and therefore your karma has been negated. It's just a basic way to keep people from arguing with the state of things.
A.- Um, religion. That's good. If you believe something, I can respect that. But that's it, that's for you. Don't go to other countries and try to convert the natives and don't force it down my throat. Just do your own thing.
D.- DO YOU CONSIDER YOURSELVES A HARDCORE BAND, A PUNK BAND....
A.- Hardcore Punk.
C.- Yeah, right. We're a thrash band.
A.- The distinction is so hard to make these days, isn't it?
B.- I'll tell you where the distinction is. If you're more worried about equipment than you are about getting a boulder, then you're a hardcore band. If you want the superchunk, then you're a punk band. I'd say we're definitely a punk band.
D.- IF YOU FOUND OUT THAT YOU ONLY HAD ONE DAY TO LIVE, WHAT WOULD YOU DO?
B.- Do you really need to ask me?
D.- O.K., BLAKE WOULD GO FOR THE CRACK.
C.- God Damn, I don't know, one day to live?
A.- I'd go down to the DMV and get in line. I'd get out of there about 4:30, jump on the ten east, y'know, get into some gridlock. I'd get out around Vernon and I'd go to work. I'd start out work at 5:00 at night, work through the night, work through the night, of course I'd be getting time-and-a-half, get a little breakfast...
C.- And Die!
A.- God, who knows?
C.- I'd get a tattoo on my face..
M.- A BIG SPIDER.
C.- ..Oh, God knows. I'd just lie in the tattoo parlor and get any tattoo I could think of, like on my face and head and all the obnoxious places. Then I'd catch a flight to San Francisco and go see Becka. Then I'd spend all my money on a Ford Ranchero, and I'd drive it off a cliff like five seconds before I was gonna die. That's a guess.
D.- ANYTHING THAT YOU WANT TO SAY IN CLOSING?
B.- I just wish people would fuck a lot. Y'know what i mean? i wish people they love. All the time.
M.- Or love people they fuck.
B.- Yeah, that too. It's a two way street.
M.- Well, yeah, If you can't fuck the person you love, love the person you fuck!
C.- Whao! Don't drop GRATEFUL DEAD on me, man!
B.- See, I never say anything like that in interviews, but because we're in Seattle, I thought I should say something about fucking and then tie it to the word love. See, it has something to do with that big arrow-needle thing you guys have here. It made me really nervous.
M.- SO, LOOKING IN FROM ANOTHER PLACE, THAT'S WHAT SEATTLE'S KNOWN FOR? FUCKING?
B.- It's known for loveless fist-fucking with loud amplifiers, and we're into loveful love-fucking with cheesey amps.
M.- O.K., THIS IS THE FINAL QUESTION- HOW WOULD YOU WANT TO BE REMEMBERED?
C.- That's a tough one. It's a hard thing to ask me 'cause I think too much, all the time. I could say something facetious and amusing and trite but... I don't know what I am right now so I don't know what I want to be remembered as.
A.- Very good answer!
B.- That's rad. I'd just like to be remembered as someone who did their own thing and...naw, I take that back. I thought I had a cool second half to that and I didn't. I'll tell you what., I'd like to be remembered as someone who had all the answers but didn't want to burden anyone with them.
A.- I, Uh, I...
B.- Loved, lost, lived.
A.- I'm at a loss.
That's all folks.